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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:03 am    Post subject: PHP-Nuke HOWTO
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I've installed the Module for PHP-Nuke HOWTOO, the full 16plus megs for present.

As you said Chris, need to make some color adjustments for my Black/White theme.

1. The Table of Contents is white on white as is the terms of dist. boarder; and the HELP US MAKE A BETTER PHP-Nuke HOWTO! since the white on green is visible, it does not stand out. The indexing shows OK.

2. The translator works beautifully, and actual converts the entire site, as well as the docs.

3. One Bug so far, working on on the front end of the docs, is the "List of Figures." They come back with a FILE NOT FOUND, The Request URL was not found on this server! and a Security Alert Certificate problem. That's on all of them.

3a Link:http://www.johngaltaisa.com/frontend.html#FIG-HOMEPAGE

4. Figures are coming up OK, if not clear in the text within the pic areas.

5. There are a host of links, that will take me some time to list, that are giving me the same FILE NOT FOUND error, when I select from the Table of Contents. Not all of them, but a great number of them.

5a Link:http://www.johngaltaisa.com/installation-process.html#AEN1202

6 Was there some use or purpose for the zipped file EN-Book.ps in the download module?? These files can't be accessed from the HOWTO Module, so are they included to put up for DL?? I also can't determine which of these files is the actual final version, as they are not (TEXT INFO) the same in content. My guess is the PDF file?

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EN-Book 193KB HTML Document
EN-Book.lyx 196KB LYX File
EN-Book 1,780KB Adobe Acrobat Doc...
EN-Book.ps 1,590KB WinZip File
EN-Book 270KB Rich Text Format
EN-Book.sgml 193KB SGML File
EN-Book 145KB Text Document


I'd like to make some suggestions for improvement, if we are to in fact improve the docs. One would be taking that link to the forums here, more direct instead of to the homepage/forum, and directly to the HOWTO Topic.

Could we not use this for a link:
http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

Let me go test some more and I'll add in some other thoughts, but boy it's a slick piece of work Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Very Happy

I'm now Evil or Very Mad on getting this plastered from one end of Nukesville to the other. You up for a little additional 'comeuppance' Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:57 pm    Post subject:
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JG, I am very grateful to you for pointing all this out!

I will come back with a more detailed answer, but for the moment let me say that yes, probably you are right on all points!

<< Chris goes check with his scripts. Pray for him. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:28 pm    Post subject:
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Open quoteOne would be taking that link to the forums here, more direct instead of to the homepage/forum, and directly to the HOWTO Topic.

Could we not use this for a link:
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Let me answer this one first, cause time presses me (I want to go offline for some days) and any answer I get on this while I am working on my scripts will be much more helpful, as we will have saved some hours waiting for feedback.

So yes, I had the same dilemma too: shall I use the general Forum link, or one directly to this topic?

Now that this topic is created, I think you are right, it would be better to send the interested reader directly here.

The only drawback is that you will not have the menu to the left.

Err...which menu?

Well, its a framed design here and most of the time I come in my forums doing the following:

Click on

http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/

This brings the Sitemenu to the left and the forums in the main window.

If I link directly to the HOWTO topic, like this:

http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=144

then the left side menu is gone.

You *can* find your way out by clicking the links at the top, but I am not sure if that's enough for the average reader in order not to feel like being in a "cage".

Please, all of you, my estimated readers, comment on this as soon as possible: which one of the two links is better for the average reader who wants to submit to and discuss the PHP-Nuke HOWTO?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:59 pm    Post subject:
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Ok, quick answer (I hope) regarding the 'cage' approach, or 'direct' to the forum.

With it on my site for example, the user has no option to DL any of the formats, unless we make a notation, they are in MY download section for off-line use, or you add it in as you did here within the EN Book itself. Then those files I just sent up packed with the 'module' could be obtained.

Using the 'cage' approach, he could get to the DL's at your site, but would need to do more work to get to them. It also provides him with other areas of interest he may want to see here.

So, if the intent is to provide, input for an 'improved' version, the direct approach seems to be the answer. Plus those File Formats, wouldn't need to be in the module, and it can be streamlined down a bit. HD space can be a major consideration for some Web Sites with limited megs from the host.

Then am I to look at it from a Webmasters view trying to put up my site and make some changes, or a user who needs help, or both.

Just batting out some (bit tired) thoughts.

Also, consider the exposer you 'were' getting regarding the HOWTO Module on one major site, has ceased to exist, or the option for it's intended use, for improvements. Sad

I for one do not presently have a user base, that would be of any help, as I've not finished up my site to my satisfaction, and submitted it as yet.

So someone with some exposer, needs to have it online. Perhaps Nuke Forums, or one or more of the bigger sites for users.. I think you see where I'm going here. By the way, who is the webmaster their? It was not clear. Confused

Note: DO you have the file up, that does not have the dupe., directory? I did strip mine and re-packed it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:14 pm    Post subject:
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Quick answer again. Wink

The download links in the Formats section should point to *locally* available files. If the site that hosts the module does not want to provide them, they can just erase the .pdf, .ps.gz, .rtf, .sgml, .txt, .lyx versions at their sole discretion. I have no problem with that.

There is an error in my scripts that breaks those links, otherwise you would click on the PDF link and would get the locally stored PDF - I think a nice idea for people who

- want a PDF (PS, RTF, TXT or whatever) version and

- don't want or should not leave the Nuke site they are currently visiting.

That the user can get the files from my site, this is stated in the "Availability of sources" section - and that's enough, I think.

I leave it to the community to install or not install the module on their sites. Their decision.

The module has 12MB of duplicate images. That's why it takes so much space when extracted. The new module will take only a few Megs of space. Deleting unwanted versions like RTF (with all .bmp images from the images subdirectory), or PS will leave you with a really small disk footprint.

I'll upload a new version of the module "soon". Check this space for announcements.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:52 pm    Post subject:
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Open quoteThere is an error in my scripts that breaks those links, otherwise you would click on the PDF link and would get the locally stored PDF - I think a nice idea for people who

- want a PDF (PS, RTF, TXT or whatever) version and

- don't want or should not leave the Nuke site they are currently visiting. Close quote


Great, I like that, and was looking for it in the Module. But, hey a tweak here, and there. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 3:40 am    Post subject:
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I have just uploaded an updated version of the PHP-Nuke HOWTO module. It fixes a number of bugs:

  • Subdirectory EN-Book with duplicate images was deleted.
  • The links in the Formats section should now all work and lead to local copies of the various formats for the HOWTO. Only the links to the module itself and the various tar archives point to my site. There is no point for every site to offer them too.
  • Links to document "fragments" (thos links with a # somewhere in the URL) were fixed too.
  • The link to my PHP-Nuke HOWTO forum was slightly changed. Together with a new "frameset file" on my site, it is now possible to point to the PHP-Nuke Forum *and* display the navigation menu to the left. I preferred this solution as a compromise between the original "point to all forums" and JG's proposal to point exactly to *this* thread. Further, I made this thread "sticky", so there should be no problem locating it. Wink I think this is a good compromise.
  • If you experience problems with the white titles, copy ck-style-black.css to ck-style.css (but do a backup of the latter first!) and tell me if it looks better. The idea is, you have to change ck-style.css to fit your theme's colours. Read the INSTALL file.


Please check the new version. I made every effort to ensure that all links function as they should, but there are hundreds of them.

Special thanks to JG for all the comments and suggestions.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 3:48 am    Post subject:
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Ideally, we should have a different ck-style.css stylesheet for every standard PHP-Nuke theme. If you create one for your theme, please send it to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 3:56 am    Post subject:
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Open quoteIdeally, we should have a different ck-style.css stylesheet for every standard PHP-Nuke theme. If you create one for your theme, please send it to me.Close quote


I'll work on the Black/White them, that seems to have acquired a following, regardless of layout. I was hoping to get mine to a Black/Gold theme. Still too new at this, but will give it a go.

Is the new changes to the EN Book, up for DL yet, as I'm getting the same file size, and unpacked, still has the books in-bedded.

Opps...scratch the last. I have it. Must be tired. Confused

Maybe not that tired, as it unpacks to a 16,536,838Mb file size from a 5,313Mb Zip size?

Am I losing it, or is it still the same module. The figures come up now, but I seen NO reference to wgere they can DL the Book Formats, not on my end or yours using the link back to your front page, that by the way is the same.

The link to the forum, still puts you in a 'cage', and nothing to me is more annoying than having to move the scroll bar back and forth just to read a message.

Pop over to my site, and see if I'm crazy here! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:25 am    Post subject:
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Open quoteI'll work on the Black/White them, that seems to have acquired a following, regardless of layout. I was hoping to get mine to a Black/Gold theme. Still too new at this, but will give it a go. Close quote


I hope I can give you a working CSS for your theme soon - at least one that makes header, footer and TOC legible.
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Open quoteMaybe not that tired, as it unpacks to a 16,536,838Mb file size from a 5,313Mb Zip size? Close quote


Yup. That's it. Smile

Delete the RTF and the BMPs from the images directory and you will be 11 Megs lighter. Wink

Forward further complaints about RTF file size to M$. The whole world asks me for a .doc whenever I have to send even a trivial text file. So I am pretty sure that as soon as I drop RTF from the supported formats, people will start saying "Yes, but there is no Word-readable format, where is a .doc, or at least a .rtf?".
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Open quoteI seen NO reference to wgere they can DL the Book Formats, not on my end or yours using the link back to your front page, that by the way is the same. Close quote


Go to the Formats section and try the links there. They should point to locally available PDF, RTF, PS.GZ, TXT, SGML, LYX and HTML files. The TAR.GZ links point to my site.
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Open quoteThe link to the forum, still puts you in a 'cage', Close quote


Not really. You get a menu to the left. You can use it to navigate through my site. It expands and collapses like a usual "Explorer" menu. So you are not in a "cage".
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Open quoteand nothing to me is more annoying than having to move the scroll bar back and forth just to read a message. Close quote


Ah, now I see. Well, I don't think I can do anything for this. You seem to be using too low a resolution. The left menu takes up some space and you have to scroll the forums horizontally. There are four possibilities:

Either you choose a higher resolution,

or you "reload frame in window" (that's the Netscape option from right-click menu on that frame). This will reload the forum frame in the whole window.

or you use

http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

or I have to find a better width for the left menu (but that's difficult with all those resolutions out there). Not today please.
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