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Tabu Question? Can I remove the PHP-NUKE logo from top left?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:21 pm    Post subject: Tabu Question? Can I remove the PHP-NUKE logo from top left?
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I'm very new and like the gazillion options and features that PHP-NUK offers but I'm hoping I can replace the prominent logo with my own to customize my site for my business.

Can I do this? If not, has anyone any clever ideas to work around this? Also, where can I find other PHP-NUKE sites for review?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:13 pm    Post subject:
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Yo can change by going into the header file in your theme, and finding the code for the banner, and just change the source to your new image.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:40 pm    Post subject:
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Another idea is to just save your own logo image under

themes/ThemeName/images/logo.gif

where "ThemeName" is the name of your theme (like NukeNews, Kaput etc.).

It is not a tabu question, it is perfectly legal (and even expected) to do so. What is tabu is the Copyright notice in the footer: you are not allowed to erase it! This is the only thing that Francisco Burzi, the creator of PHP-Nuke, asks from you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:22 am    Post subject: copyright
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I understand you can't erase the copyright at the bottom of the page. But what about changing it. Mine sayd Copyright 2003 and I would like to change it to 2004.
How can I do this?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject:
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You are not allowed to change the Copyright Notice in the footer - basta.

The theme footer is the place where the PHP-Nuke copyright notice comes in. You don't need to do anything for this, it is done automatically as follows:

The function themefooter() in theme.php contains a call to the footmsg() function, as in the following example from the Milo theme (file themes/Milo/theme.php):

Code:

    echo "</td>\n"
        ."</tr></table>\n"
        ."<table bgcolor=\"#000000\" width=\"750\"
          cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n"
        ."<tr>\n"
        ."<td width=\"750\" height=\"5\">
          <img src=\"themes/Milo/images/bottombar.gif\" width=\"750\"
          height=\"5\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"></td>\n"
        ."</tr>\n"
        ."<tr>\n"
        ."<td width=\"100%\"><img src=\"themes/Milo/images/pixel.gif\"
          width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"></td>\n"
        ."</tr>\n"
        ."</table>\n"
        ."<br>\n"
        ."<br>\n"
        ."<table width=\"750\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\"
          border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n"
        ."<tr align=\"center\">\n"
        ."<td width=\"100%\" colspan=\"3\">\n";
    footmsg();
    echo "</td>\n"
        ."</tr>\n"
        ."</table>\n";


footmsg, in turn, is defined in the footer.php file (located in the root directory, together with config.php, mainfile.php and the other important files). There, among some code that displays the computation time it took to display the page, we read:

Code:

    // DO NOT REMOVE THE FOLLOWING COPYRIGHT LINE.
       YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REMOVE NOR EDIT THIS.
    echo "$copyright<br>$totaltime<br>\n</font>\n";


So that's the place where the Copyright notice for PHP-Nuke comes from! Does that mean that, now that we have found it, we are entitled to edit or remove it? Absolutely NOT! In the INSTALL file that comes with the PHP-Nuke package, Franzisco Burzi, the author of PHP-Nuke explicitly forbids this:

Code:

##############################################################################
#                        I M P O R T A N T    N O T E                        #
##############################################################################
# IMPORTANT: I saw many sites that removes the copyright line in the footer  #
# of each page. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REMOVE NOR CHANGE/EDIT THAT NOTE. If I #
# still see this problem happening I'll need to take extreme measures that   #
# can include: to change the PHP-Nuke license, to encrypt some parts of the  #
# code, stop distributing it for free and in an extreme case stop developing #
# it. The decision is in your hands.                                         #
# If you do not agreed with this simple rule, delete all PHP-Nuke files      #
# rigth now and move away from it. Thanks.                                   #
##############################################################################


Still, even this simple and clear admonition from the author does not stop some folks to pose the same question in the forums again and again: Am I allowed to take the Copyright Notice away? The argument often presented is one that involves the Licence uder which PHP-Nuke is released, the GNU General Public Licence (GPL). If I am allowed to change the code under the GPL, the argument goes, and the Copyright Notice is generated by a function call to footmsg(), why not just change the code and delete that call in my theme? I can do this, right?

Wrong. In an article titled PHP-Nuke GPL Copyright Removal Question Finally Solved, MissS writes:
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Open quoteA while back, questions were raised as to whether or not the copyright notice at the bottom of PHPNuke created pages could be removed. Now there is an answer to this question, straight from the GNU people.

The GNU website states that if you have any questions concerning licensing, you can simply email them for clarification. That is exactly what I did and what follows is my email to them... Close quote


So MissS wrote to licensing@gnu.org on Sept. 19th, 2002 and asked:
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Open quoteI have a question about the GNU/GPL license. There is a program called PHP-Nuke that has been released under this license. (This program can be found at www.phpnuke.org) This program is a content management system that provides the structure for a website along with the means to administer that site.

What I would like to know is this: if I use this PHPNuke program to create my website, must the copyright notice (that is included at the bottom of each page that is created with PHPNuke) remain there in order to remain in compliance with this license? There is also a copyright notice within the source code files themselves. Close quote


Dave Turner's answer was clear, albeit somewhat lapidary:
Quote:
Open quoteYes. See section 2c of the GPL for details. Close quote


MissS was also confused as to whether PHP-Nuke can be technically considered as what the GPL in its 2c section calls a program that "normally reads commands interactively when run" , in which case it must, among other things, "print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice":
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Open quoteThis subject came up a while back at PHPNuke.org and no-one seemed to know the real answer. I have spent quite sometime reading over your license and can't definitively figure out this answer for myself. (I had questions such as: is the output from a program like this truly considered interactive or not?)

Please let me know. I don't want to remove the copyright footers on the output pages if I am not legally allowed to do so. Close quote


To which Dave Turner replied:
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Open quoteI think a web-based message board clearly reads commands nteractively. So, if there is such a notice, you can't remove it. But you could alter its form, so long as it is still appropriate.

-Dave Turner

Free Software Licensing Guru

This is not legal advice. If you need legal advice, see a lawyer. Close quote


This pretty much says it all.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:16 pm    Post subject: Change of logo not working
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I too am somewhat new to Nuke. I'm trying to change the logo under the 3D-Fantasy theme. Two things: (BTW, running Nuke 7.3)

1) In the online instructions (which are also copied in this forum) to change the logo in the header.html file it points to
./themes/3D-Fantasy/header.html:<a href="modules.php?name=PHP-Nuke_HOWTO&page=index.php"><img src="themes/3D-Fantasy/images/logo.gif" border="0"
alt="Welcome to $sitename" align="left"></a>

However, there is no line that contains <a href="modules.php?name=PHP-Nuke_HOWTO&page=index.php">, but there is a line that starts with <a href="index.php"> and then points to the logo.gif file. Is this a glitch in the documentation?

2) When I do try to change the header.html to reflect the logo file I want to use, all I get in the resulting page is a missing image icon that is hyperlinked. I know I'm spelling everything correctly. I even renamed my file to be logo.gif (and yes, it is a gif file) and I still get the same results. Does this logo HAVE to be a gif file and does it HAVE to be named logo.gif? I've tried multiple names and multiple formats with no results.

Can somone help me out?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:35 pm    Post subject:
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2. Is the new logo.gif file placed in the correct folder?

example: using the 3d-fantasy folder the image should be in this folder:
/themes/3D-fantasy/images/ ->HERE<-

If you return the original header.html file and copy your new shiny logo.gif file to that directory it should solve everything.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Change of logo not working
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corbywan wrote:
Open quote1) In the online instructions (which are also copied in this forum) to change the logo in the header.html file it points to
./themes/3D-Fantasy/header.html:<a href="modules.php?name=PHP-Nuke_HOWTO&page=index.php"><img src="themes/3D-Fantasy/images/logo.gif" border="0"
alt="Welcome to $sitename" align="left"></a>

However, there is no line that contains <a href="modules.php?name=PHP-Nuke_HOWTO&page=index.php">, but there is a line that starts with <a href="index.php"> and then points to the logo.gif file. Is this a glitch in the documentation? Close quote


Indeed it is a bug in the PHP-Nuke HOWTO module. However, this error appears only in the module version of the HOWTO. For example, compare the "standalone" version of it in How to change the logo in the PHP-Nuke header. You can see that it is correct there.

It all has to do with the fact that something like "index.php" must be changed to "modules.php?name=PHP-Nuke_HOWTO&page=index.php" if we are dealing with the PHP-Nuke module version of the PHP-Nuke HOWTO. Of course, this should not happen inside code examples, so this is clearly a bug of the module version.

Now I have to find a way to distinguish between an "index.php" in a "href" of a "real" link and an "index.php" in a "href" of just a code example...Pretty complicated, if you want to do this automatically - as I do...

Thanks for pointing this out!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:39 pm    Post subject:
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See also some newer developments on the GPL issue and the Copyright notice.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: more of the same stupid questions
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with out removing or violating the copyright posting requirements is if possible to force a line break between the 2 sentences in the copyright.

As it is now - using version 7.6 the copyright fills the width of the site and looks somewhat out of place.

Adding a line break would seperate the line into 2 lines but would not change the meaning of the copyright statement.

Basicly, where is the actual code for the $copyright so i can add a <BR>?
Code:
<br>
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